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Computer security is usually defined as achieving three things: Confidentiality, Integrity and Availability.

If device loss (or a google/apple account ban) leads to permanent loss of access to your (other) accounts, then passkeys aren't providing availability, so they're not secure.

Put another way: If you ignore availability, then passwords are even more secure than passkeys when used "correctly":

When creating a new account, choose a random 80 digit string for your password and don't record it anywhere. Also, don't set up an account recovery email address / phone number / etc.

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Of course, you're always at the mercy of customer service. Not having a backup email or phone number can make your account easier to attack since the customer service agent has fewer options before they resort to just giving your account away to the attacker.