[gumby]

> I think these new features sound great, but I'm not in any hurry to adopt them wholesale.

And if you don’t like them you don’t have to use them. I don’t use Siri and it doesn’t bother me that Apple includes it on all their machines.

[hansvm]

> I don't use Siri

That's likely true. Unless you were careful to do a lot more than just disabling it, it does use you though, slurping up quite a bit of data.

[whoiskevin]

reference? Proof? How is it slurping data if I have it turned off and don't even use it?

[hansvm]

You have to disable the data slurping for each app. The main toggle just governs whether it responds to voice commands. Previous discussion [0].

Separately, the data Siri sends isn't held to the same differential privacy standards as some of Apple's other diagnostics. They just give you a unique ID and yolo it [1]. Unless personalized device behaviors are somehow less identifiable than all the other classes of data subject to deanonymization attacks (demographics, software/hardware version fingerprints, ...), that unique ID is just to be able to pretend to the courts that they tried (give or take Hanlon's razor).

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657

[1] https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/ask-siri-dictati...

[flemhans]

How?

[hansvm]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40647751