[hughesjj]

Mozilla has been problematic for a while now, both with personnel having some... strong political ideas, their governance, executive pay, product direction....

Ugh, I don't want to go back to a chromium based browser but I don't know how what other options I have at this point, short of dropping down to links/lynx/elinks ..

[WalterSear]

I was told recently that their executives attempted to start an AI initiative without involving anyone from their data engineering team.

[serf]

firefox could have some of the wackiest politics in the world but that fact remains that Google/Chrome is one of the key linchpins for the global corporate surveillance capitalism panopticon that we have today.

I still feel like it's an easy recommendation compared to the rest of the browser market.

[smegsicle]

what's wrong with strong political ideas, as long as they're the right ones?

[nitrogen]

> as long as they're the right ones?

Which ones are the right ones? Yours? Mine?

[_heimdall]

I honestly can't tell it the was meant sarcastically.

Who defines what the "right" political idea is? And do you really want to live in a society limited only to ideas that are deemed as the "right" ones by whoever has that power?

[ulrikrasmussen]

That's kind of how society works and why we have democracy.

[_heimdall]

What do you mean? Who defines the "right" political ideas in a democracy?

My understanding is that a democracy would exist to allow the majority of a society to define what they want, and that in the US we have a democratic republic because our founders still didn't trust the public enough to leave decisions entirely to a majority vote of the public.

[ranger_danger]

Ladybird browser.

[rafram]

Not yet usable for any real work.