[ptero]

Thank you for doing this!

As my own sidebar, I spent many years at a national lab working with distributed sensor networks (primarily ATC and other radar for detecting non-weather stuff :) ). I thought about using ADS-B as input for weather state and forecasts, but never got around to trying it. Now that I am working on my own startup (self-funded and without revenue so far), so this again will likely languish in my todo list. If someone wants to try it, great, and feel free to reach out as I can probably save you some time selecting and interpreting the right ADS-B fields:

We have a lot of aircraft blasting ADS-B reports whenever they fly. Most reports contain (1) accurate 3D position, including altitude and (2) barometric altitude measurements, which gives you (after some minimal work) air pressure. So you have millions freely available pressure reports not just on the ground, but throughout 0-40000 ft altitude band.

You also get measured airspeed and groundspeed, so in addition to pressure you get wind vectors at thousands of points in the air, updating in real time. I suspect this can provide some non-trivial information and I am not aware of anyone actually using it for this purpose.

[counters]

These data are already consumed operationally by the major global weather modeling centers - e.g., check out the AMDAR [1] or ACARS programs. There are commercial agreements which restrict third-party access to these data in real-time, but they are widely disseminate with a 24-48 hour lag in the observational archives that NOAA curates for weather modeling.

These data are a very important input for operational weather forecasting. On a global basis, we've seen how losing these data during the pandemic due to reductions in air travel decreased forecast model skill [2]. Furthermore, ACARS profiles derived from aircraft landing at airports where severe weather is expected are regularly used to complement SPECI weather balloon launches.

[1]: https://community.wmo.int/en/activity-areas/aircraft-based-o... [2]: https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/apme/59/11/JAMC-D...

[ptero]

Thank you for the info, I am glad to hear that the data is being collected and used. Getting it from raw ADS-B reports makes all fields available without the lag (and thus more useful for weather reporting and forecasting), but the recorded data is definitely good to have!

[madacol]

you referenced "(1)" and "(2)" but didn't provide the actual links

[ptero]

Those numbers were a form of "verbal highlight" of items in a long sentence, not actual links.

For specific ADS-B fields, ADS-B exchange used to have a great data fields overview. ICAO should have a spec, too.

[defrost]

It was an inline numbered list of two items. [2]

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTby_e4-Rhg