[tim333]

>insane that there are zero governments in the entire world that can uphold the basic principle of full bodily autonomy

If there is zero government you get gang rape etc so it's more a question of where you draw the line.

[advael]

Seems reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. By definition, rape of any kind fails the "consenting adults" criterion pretty trivially. I draw the line exactly where I said I do, and the whole "the worst crimes I can think of justify the whole project of authoritarianism because it's simply a matter of degrees" line of reasoning is as puerile as it is unoriginal

[chx]

whao talk about gaslighting

that's not what gp said

> it's insane that there are zero governments in the entire world

He said the subset of governments for which it is true they uphold full bodily autonomy is the empty set.

He did not state anything about a country not having a government

[tim333]

Maybe I phrased it badly but I don't think it's insane that there are no governments that do that because there are obvious problems if they did. I guess you could go for full autonomy as long as the other people involved are not pissed off.

[ozzcer]

> I will never recognize a government's right to tell adults what they can do with their own bodies and other consenting adults

Its almost like that's what they said