[wkat4242]

> a state identification card that has nothing to do with being licensed to operate a motor vehicle

Of course in a car-centric society as the US you could argue how optional that is :)

[nkrisc]

Depends where you live. I had a state ID for a little while when I was a young adult because I didn’t get my driver’s license right away. I used public transit and didn’t have a car anyway.