| > I'm merely pointing out that you're assuming ignorance simply because I have a different opinion to you Yes. You have a different opinion than me and the majority of Spaniards. Despite that you think that you can make statements on behalf of us. There comes the ignorance. > Freeloaders, admittedly a charged word, is how I'd view someone Spaniards don't. > How is that any different to a mugger stealing your phone or your wallet? Not different, and per Spanish law, theft up to a few hundred euros is not a crime either. > It's convenient to imagine that the only people falling victim to this are those who can afford to have their property stolen from them. Its not 'convenient'. Its how this works. Okupa movement stakes out houses, its owners and goes after the well-off. In a lot of cases they get help from within the community, or the occupier is someone from the neighborhood already. That's what 'professional' okupas help with - by helping poor locals occupy empty houses. Surely occasionally an unhinged persona occupies someone's only house. But that's rare. The majority of occupation happens locally through the help of activist okupas. ... Long story short, you have no idea about the culture and society you speak of, despite having lived here for 2 years, and you are still handing out statements and interpretations based on, well, American cultural mentality actually. Spanish culture is different. Its as simple as that. The difference between these two cultures can be seen in how things are in the specific countries. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/homes-for-sale-affordable-housi... https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/13/americas-dirty-little-secret... https://www.quora.com/Were-there-any-American-citizens-livin... Not that the other countries that imitate the US and the capitalist mentality are any different - even Scandinavian countries started to experience major inequality after adopting 'investment friendly' practices in the last few years. Americans themselves are escaping to other countries, including Spain, to escape the hellhole that it has become and gentrifying the people there in the process. North Europeans are doing it too - which is actually becoming a problem. So that mentality doesn't work. It f*cks up societies. Stop preaching it. |
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> Public opinion on squatting is polarised, with some viewing it as a necessary response to systemic failures that leave citizens without affordable housing options. Others see it as an infringement on property rights and a challenge to the rule of law.
If you're actually fine with theft, again going back to the mugging example, we simply couldn't be further apart in our views. I would be curious to know if you're a homeowner but honestly, I don't think either of us are going to gain anything from delving any deeper with this discussion.