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by its_ethan 741 days ago
> I like precise logical argumentation

That's not quite how your comments elsewhere in this thread read lol

> This is not true, many civilizations were against private property rights and private property rights were never universal

Wanna name a couple of those civilizations that didn't have property rights that managed to thrive and grow beyond a population of like 10,000? If you're going to point towards something like Greenland or China where land is owned exclusively by the state and leased out.. that's the same thing as private property rights, the people who lease that land out have rights with respect to that land. Countries literally can not exist without property rights, and if you're gonna say "yea and countries shouldn't exist it's all just made up borders anyway, mann..." then you're username is incredibly fitting lmao

I also never said that these rights were universal, just that they show up. A lot. And if you want to claim that reason is because of some oppression, go for it. I happen to think this is wrong, and the fact that basically every time these rights are revoked things go to shit tells me that's because they exist for a reason. See

> No one is coerced to join those rebels.

Brother, they showed up with guns and took over buildings by force; they destroyed the land records for everyone, not just their specific "members" - if that's not coercion, what is? Please recognize that you may just be enamored with the ideals of what the group said on paper, and are therefore rationalizing their extremist actions that end up being counterproductive to any positive goals.

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It seems like you don't discuss in a good faith to be honest.

> That's not quite how your comments elsewhere in this thread read lol

What do you don't understand? I can try to explain in more elementarily if you have problems with understanding something.

> Wanna name a couple of those civilizations that didn't have property rights that managed to thrive and grow beyond a population of like 10,000?

This list can be quite relevant, some of those project existed for a short time, some for longer: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W1wWjWNXhvHjMzzyxT5z5Es_...

>Brother, they showed up with guns and took over buildings by force; they destroyed the land records for everyone, not just their specific "members" - if that's not coercion, what is?

What do you think about genocide of Indigenous Americans? Is it okay? Or can they defend themselves?

I’m meeting you where you are, my friend.

Hope you have a nice rest of your day.