[nchuhoai]

> They [Serial Entrepreneurs] understand that technology is just a means to an end, the firm is in business to make money

While I dont doubt that a firm is usually in business to make money, I dont think we can just degrade technology to a means to and end

[reddickulous]

If technology isn't a means to an end then what is it? I don't see how it can be anything other than that unless you say it's like art for art's sake - technology for technology's sake.

[oscilloscope]

Heidegger's essay "A Question Concerning Techology" addresses exactly this. There are free translations online of varying quality. My favorite translation is in this collection:

http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Writings-Martin-Heidegger/dp/006...

The essence of technology is a process of enframing knowledge, natural resources and labor into a technological system.

Take a look at financial systems, which are a means to an end (production, exchange, etc) but have taken on a life of their own. The system is a mix of various technologies and artifacts: contracts, currencies, presses, credit cards, databases, cash registers, stock exchanges etc. Money frees and empowers us, but also confines us.

The ordering of money holds sway over other systems, such as barter systems, which presents a different mode of enframing economic activity.

What about technologies like open source licenses or programming languages?

The license ensures the work can be redistributed and modified. Is this a means to an end? Maybe. It seems more open-ended than that. It's not simply satisfying the need of an existing system.

The language emphasizes logics and techniques. Are formal languages a means to an end, or a mode of revealing and expressing logical structure?

[tokenizer]

While true that technology is either tech for tech's sake, or tech for something else's stake, I think the nchuhoai meant that technology is something much more than a means to an end, especially money.

It's applied mathematics that allows us to go deeper into analysis, gain deeper insights, and better control the variables and mechanisms invovled with it. See medicine, engineering, science, art, education, government, etc.

As a discipline though, I find it's associated with information, and can thus be 'in it' for itself in regards to practices, research, theory, and application. So I think it's both. Technology is an odd thing when you think about it.

I think that trying to classify it doesn't really matter though, as technology 'is', so we should focus on using it to make other things, and itself, better. I'm not against philosophical discussions though.