[nullindividual]

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[bluefirebrand]

> Kind of sucks to be assumed that people with my views would have the idea that males should suffer in silence.

Your only friends are women and you would feel conversations about your feelings and emotions would be inappropriate with other men

So what do you think men who only have male friends do?

They suffer in silence

You may not feel like they "should" suffer in silence, but your beliefs are such that if you didn't have your close female friends who you spoke with, you would be doing exactly that

Anyways, I'm likely further right than you. I have more male friends than female friends, and I don't think it's inappropriate to talk about your feelings with other men.

[paulryanrogers]

> I don't think it's inappropriate to talk about your feelings with other men.

Nor do I. Yet those times when I have tried the results have too often been negative.

Once the topic is broached some guys get stuck in downward spirals during conversation. And it's hard to make it clear you hear them without reinforcing their insecurities.

Others will go and tell mutual friends that you over share or are too emotional.

Changing cultural problems like this will take time and tact.

[bluefirebrand]

> Changing cultural problems like this will take time and tact.

It starts with men not caring if other men say they're too emotional, or that they over share or whatever else. It starts with men allowing themselves to be vulnerable and setting an example for one another, especially older men showing younger men that's ok

Shying away from this is part of the problem

[nullindividual]

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[bluefirebrand]

> This feels accusatory but I'm unsure if you mean it that way

A little yes

You are complaining about "toxic masculinity" while also still practicing the parts that are truly toxic, like not having male friends or being open with your feelings to other men