[shakow]

But it is still more than an order of magnitude slower than RAM, and is harmful for the disk cells.

If you have enough money to provision NVMe and still swap multiple gigabytes, just get a 16GB RAM stick for $40.

[Rinzler89]

>just get a 16GB RAM stick for $40

Laptops come with soldered RAM now where upgrades are not possible. And most people use laptops nowadays instead of desktops.

Buying another laptop to double your ram just because you hit the swap once in a blue moon is kinda wasteful.

[shakow]

If you are frequently swapping out 32GB, a laptop is not the right tool for the job.

[Rinzler89]

Where did I say anything about swapping out entire 32GB? Why does everything need to be binary in this argument? As in you either swap 32GB or have swap disabled?

What if you from time to time you only swap a couple of GB? Isn't that better than having your system completely lock up and need rebooting?

[littlestymaar]

> If you have enough money to provision NVMe and still swap multiple gigabytes, just get a 16GB RAM stick for $40.

Why should I pay $40 when I have way more than 16GB of free SSD storage on my computer already?!

[shakow]

Because:

> it is still more than an order of magnitude slower than RAM, and is harmful for the disk cells.

I mean, if that's not an issue for you, be my guest. But that's not the global optimum.

[littlestymaar]

It's not slow enough for me to notice, and disk cells will likely outlive the rest of the computer anyway. Its not first generation SSD anymore.

Reusing hardware you already have clearly feels more optimal than buying new one because it makes things unnoticeably slower.

[dale_glass]

It's not that hard to max out system capacity on desktop boards. I'm using the maximum possible 128 GB RAM on my desktop.

[teaearlgraycold]

NVMe is cheap in that I don’t really need everything I bought. But I use all of the RAM I have.