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by gchokov 737 days ago
China is so much ahead of everyone else in tech, space and automation. It's not funny anymore.
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China's progress and this accomplishment are very impressive, the more the merrier. But NASA does have two nuclear powered humvees driving on Mars at the moment.
And until recently, a helicopter :)
In the space industry, the US is so much ahead of everyone else. SpaceX is the long pole in the tent, but there are many other startups doing cool stuff.
Despite advancements, China still relies on key technologies from other countries, such as semiconductor manufacturing, where the U.S., Taiwan, and South Korea are leaders.

The U.S. and other countries maintain a strong lead in original innovation, with Silicon Valley and other tech hubs producing groundbreaking technologies and startups.

While China has made significant progress, the U.S. (through NASA and private companies like SpaceX) has more extensive and diverse achievements in space, including reusable rockets and plans for Mars colonization.

Countries like Japan and Germany are leaders in robotics and automation technologies, with advanced systems and innovations that often surpass those of China.

China faces criticism for intellectual property theft and lack of respect for IP laws, which undermines perceptions of its technological advancements.

Although China produces a high volume of research, the quality and global impact of research from the U.S. and Europe are often considered higher.

Don't the US and Europe also rely on key technologies from other countries?
Yes, but the claim is not "US and Europe is so much ahead of everyone else in tech, space and automation that it's not funny anymore" but that China is. So, while the answer to your question is "of course" it's not relevant to the claim.
shhhhh! China bad, USA good
> Despite advancements, China still relies on key technologies from other countries, such as semiconductor manufacturing, where the U.S., Taiwan, and South Korea are leaders.

Doesn't the US (and most of the world) rely on Taiwan for semiconductors as well?

> The U.S. and other countries maintain a strong lead in original innovation, with Silicon Valley and other tech hubs producing groundbreaking technologies and startups.

There's nothing like WeChat in the west yet. I'm not sure this strong lead is still there.

> Although China produces a high volume of research, the quality and global impact of research from the U.S. and Europe are often considered higher.

By whom?

It's important to consider that China and the US/Europe didn't start on equal footing.

Just 75 years ago China was ages behind the US. The speed at which they're progressing is mindblowing, especially considering their population.

Compare China with India, if your intent is to do a fairer comparison.

> There's nothing like WeChat in the west yet. I'm not sure this strong lead is still there.

China has a lot of really impressive technology and innovation happening. An app store inside a messaging app is not what I would point to as groundbreaking from a technology standpoint.

It's not an app store inside a messaging app, it's a mega app. You can do literally everything with it, from home banking to payments to filing for divorce and booking a doctor.
> China has a lot of really impressive technology and innovation happening.

Such as?

On the other side the US Apollo rock samples from the moon are now lost somewhere in dusty warehouses, disinterested, neglected and unaccounted for.

There was an incident few years ago, where a couple had stolen some moon dust, spread it on their bed sheets and has sex on top.

>The U.S. and other countries maintain a strong lead in original innovation, with Silicon Valley and other tech hubs producing groundbreaking technologies and startups.

What are these groundbreaking technologies? Social apps? Marketing automation tools? Ride sharing apps?

I agree, we all stooped to this point because all we did was laugh at them as they outsmarted us and played for keeps.
I mean, the first robotic sample return was in 1970: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_16

This is more a case of "no-one has really been able to make an economic case for doing this sort of thing since the 70s."

Elon Musk is ahead of everyone else in space. While nice, this and everything else anyone has done this and past decade in space is much less significant than the far more economical rockets Musk has built, basically with his bare hands.
Not just Elon Musk, there are so many talented Engineers at SpaceX, and they are doing the hard work day in and day out.
Right, however it is customary to ascribe accomplishments to the person making the work possible rather than those who execute it. The same engineers won’t do as much anywhere else.