[bryanlarsen]

> Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, Renault, Kia, Hyundai all have 48V cars. Some of those are several years old.

Those all still have a 12V system as well.

> The Toyota bZ4X and Lexus RZ 450e are fully steer by wire

2025 models, not current models.

[akmarinov]

> Those all still have a 12V system as well.

Model 3 and Model Y and Model S and Model X still have a 12V system as well, lol

[bryanlarsen]

Model 3/Y/X are only 12V. Cybertruck is only 48V. Audi has cars with both 48V and 12V. You're not going to get the cost savings benefits of switching to 48V by having both 48V & 12V.