[s1artibartfast]

You can make up whatever standard you want, but it will fail when an impossible expectation collides with reality.

Reality is messy, and optimal care has a non-zero failure rate.

[ok_dad]

My standard is that doctors listen to patients, which they don’t do because they don’t respect them. They think they’re all knowing, incapable of mistakes, and let their personal biases rule. Every doctor I’ve been to has struggled to listen.

Listening is not an impossible standard.

[s1artibartfast]

I have never expereinced a doctor that doesnt listen to their patient. However most dont take everything the patient says at face value.

Processing, weighing, and interpreting what patients say is a fundamental part of their job. Sifting through crappy data and figuring out what is relevant.

You are paying them for their personal biases.

[ok_dad]

“I haven’t drank alcohol.”

The doctors interpretation:

“She’s clearly a drunk.”

Like I said elsewhere, a night in the hospital would have solved this immediately, but the doctor was unable to get past their own bias.

[s1artibartfast]

I don't disagree, but what you are missing is that those biases are correct 99.9999% of time.

It's unclear if the doctors she saw even knew that Auto Brewery syndrome existed.

[ok_dad]

Six nines? Really? Sounds like you need to show evidence of that claim.

[s1artibartfast]

Severe auto-brewery has been documented on the order of 20 times in the history of the western world. Thats why it is worth publishing a paper about, and why doctors dont suspect it, and might not even know about it.

How many people have have gone to the doctor and lied about their alcohol use? 6 nines is 1 a million patients. There are probably more nines than that.

[adamomada]

Do you think it might sound similar to someone clueless about cars discussing an engine issue with their mechanic?

[ok_dad]

No, cars are not able to talk to the mechanic to tell them where it hurts.