[doikor]

> The CPUs are also using the previous-gen graphics architecture, RDNA2.

The GPU on these parts is there mostly for being able to boot into BIOS or OS for debugging. Basically when things go wrong and you want to debug what is broken (remove GPU from machine and see if things work)

[matharmin]

These are decent GPUs for anything other than heavy gaming. I'm driving two 4k screens with it, and even for some light gaming (such as factorio) it's completely fine.

[123yawaworht456]

I'm under the impression that Factorio can run on any GPU capable of producing video output at all. years ago when I played it, it ran perfectly fine on whatever iGPU my 4790K had. 60 FPS/UPS with pretty big bases (although iirc I did disable all video effects like smoke to avoid cluttering the screen)

[nolist_policy]

The 'Ryzen 7000 iGPU" (Why is there no official codename?!) can even run GTA 5 at low/medium settings.

[glimshe]

I know it's hard to believe, but GTA V is now over 10 years old...

[Loudergood]

But does it run Crysis?

[user_7832]

I agree, my 780m is quite capable in most games. Depending on the resolution & settings even cyberpunk 2077 is playable at 60fps. MS Flight sim though hits (presumably the memory bandwidth bottleneck) hard.

[doikor]

The GPU in the APU is on a totally different level when compared to the 2 core RDNA 2 one in the “normal” CPUs

For example the 780m you mentioned has 12 cores and newer architecture so is probably something like 10 to 15 times more powerful.

[user_7832]

Thanks for the clarification, I think I got confused with the other desktop chip(s?) that have a 780m.

[MaKey]

The 780m is RDNA3 though.

[user_7832]

Thanks, missed it. Is the steamdeck rdna2? That's also decently capable.

[_cenw]

Sort of. The generation is RDNA2, but it's unlike all other RDNA2 chips because the focus is so much on energy efficiency (and the APU has its own codename, van gogh)

[user_7832]

Thank you!

[moooo99]

Hard disagree on that one. I am daily driving an RDNA2 graphics unit for 1.5 years now and it’s absolutely sufficient. I mostly do office work and occasionally play Minecraft. It’s absolutely sufficient for that and I don’t see any reason why you‘d want to waste money on a dGPU for that kind of load

[nickjj]

Another advantage of having an integrated GPU is you can do a GPU pass-through and let a VM directly and fully use your dedicated GPU.

This could be a thing if you're running native Linux but some games only work on Windows which you run in a VM instead of dual booting.

[ffsm8]

I have to disagree. They work great for video playback and office work. So media server, and workstations are fine without a dedicated gpu

[ubercore]

> The GPU on these parts is there mostly for being able to boot into BIOS or OS for debugging.

That's wildly not true. Transcoding, gaming, multiple displays, etc. They are often used as any other GPU would be used.

[TacticalCoder]

> The GPU on these parts is there mostly for being able to boot into BIOS or OS for debugging.

Not at all. I drive a 38" monitor with the iGPU of the 7700X. If you don't game and don't run local AI models it's totally fine.

And... No additional GPU fans.

My 7700X build is so quiet it's nearly silent. I can barely hear it's Noctua NH-12S cooler/fan ramping up when under full load and that's how it should be.

[JonChesterfield]

They also mean you can drive monitors using the builtin GPU while using dedicated ones for compute.