[lotsofpulp]

> If you were in this situation there are plenty of ways to correct the course.

I don’t like the framing of this. The correct course is for the labor seller to request the amount of money they want from the labor buyer. If you want more money for your labor, just say it up front before the tour starts.

It is unfair to spring a surprise charge on someone after you provide a product/service. I would not do it to any of my customers, since I do not want it done to me. Upfront, transparent pricing is how a proper business works.

[schneems]

I feel you’re deliberately missing the point of my story because you personally don’t like tipping.

It’s not a surprise it’s *expected* in that industry. It’s common knowledge. I provided evidence of this above that you’ve chosen to ignore.

It is somewhat funny that in a story with a billionaire and someone struggling to make a living wage, to you, the person being treated unfairly is the billionaire.

[lotsofpulp]

> It’s not a surprise it’s expected in that industry. It’s common knowledge. I provided evidence of this above that you’ve chosen to ignore.

We will have to agree to disagree. In general, I think it is unfair to judge anyone, regardless of their socioeconomic status, for abiding by the explicit terms of a business transaction.

If neither party is under duress, then the seller needs to state their price upfront before providing a product or service, otherwise, it seems stupid to judge a buyer for agreeing to the price.

[schneems]

If you were a billionaire you could:

- buy the company and pay the guides a living wage

- complain to the owner about the tipping policy

- complain to the tour guide about the tipping policy

- explicitly ask about tipping before engaging in a leisure activity using a service economy

- tip anyway but demand the company owner pay back that amount

A galaxy of things that aren’t simply “don’t pay and walk away.” I appreciate your position on tipping but don’t thing Mr. Buffer was applying some higher minded philosophy to the situation (unless you have evidence to the contrary).

Edit: spelling