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by inamorty 749 days ago
Do you have a front door to your house? Why? What can happen?
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Just answer the question if you have the answer.
I remind you Turings fate by his own government for being gay not 60 years ago. Today being gay or straight is a non issue in most countries, and Turing life would have been different.

My take is the following: we have governments because we tolerate them. Constitutions are nothing more than a social agreement, and they could be torn apart and remade at any point in time.

Politicians are our employees - we hire them, we pay them, we can fire them. Sadly in the past 80 years we have started seeing them as our saviors and forgot their power emanates from us.

I don’t want my employee (the government) telling me what to do and tracking me. It’s irrelevant whether I have or not something to hide.

I understand this stance and it makes sense.

The OP, and that’s how it started, said he switched to signal due to “data harvesters” like Meta.

I feel like the conversation here diverged from that to something different.

PS: I absolutely follow the logic of restricting politicians. Unfortunately these people are versed with power and how to use it. Otherwise they would have not ended at the top…

Parallel with front door was appropriate answer:

1. This is default expectation (to have privacy, to have doors)

2. If you go abstract, it’s not too useful (its good to have of control of information sharing/ it’s good having control who access your house)

3. It seems impractical to go into details, due to very many different scenarios, details, expectations. Take a set of different “motivations” (incompetence+personal gain+for terror+for ideology push), multiply it by types of actors (phone manufacturer, government, enemy state, criminals), mix in the possibility that law and approach can be changed/ expanded, while keeping in mind that motivations and actors will change year to year. (One thing when such tool is available for consertive gov., other thing when such tool is available for extreeme right/left gov.)

Parallels do diverge eventually, with door if somebody breaks it you most probably can see it immediately. While negative effects of privacy breach can take years to surface.

For me it’s a very bad analogy avoiding to give an answer.

Doors and how they’re used is highly cultural and has evolved. There’s nothing “fundamental” you can derive from your mental model of today.

Same goes with bike locks and the like. I used to live in a student town where people simply never locked their bikes. It was a custom of that time and place.