[drozycki]

And what is a walk? Gödel lives an hour north and Einstein needs to pick up the kids from school. Traffic is pretty bad, no time to talk.

[wussboy]

But car dependency is definitely not the root cause…

[jbaber]

Whenever this comes up, I don't understand how a married couple of professionals are supposed to live biking distance to both employers.

[wussboy]

That’s the part I didn’t understand either. You’re not. You can’t. Because that’s how the city was built. But if the city was built differently a married couple of professionals could get to work without a car.

There’s more to it than this. Check out the Not Just Bikes YouTube channel for the whole story

[Spivak]

Car dependency is a symptom. People aren't car dependent because they're addicted to cars, they're car dependent because where they live is super spread out.

Cars are a problem but forcefully excising them is both a political nonstarter and just makes life harder for everyone. People will choose to not own cars once it's feasible to do so.

[wussboy]

Oh I fully agree. Car dependency was easier to type than all the stuff you said which is a fuller analysis.

[ackfoobar]

And it can be argued people living very spread out is a symptom of something else.

[FredPret]

Wealth?

[zappchance]

Well the advent of (affordable) cars made the whole spread out urban design possible in the first place.