[nov21b]

I'm quite happy we don't have one dominant framework in JS. We have good tools for specific tasks and glueing them together is easy in JS land. Not having a big framework dictate your options is actually quite liberating.

[nxicvyvy]

Yup, I much prefer PHP to js hell but laravel is great until you want to actually build something novel. Then it gets in your way with a million layers of indirection all the way down.

JS is much more friendly when it comes to plug n play.

[tidenly]

Can you give an example of this? Laravel is very modular - you don't have to use it all if you want to call out to something more complex.

[nxicvyvy]

Plugging in your own thing is like swimming against the current.

It's nothing specific, just everything becomes harder.

[wiseowise]

Maybe this is good for your pet projects, but on an industry level I can't imagine constant arguing about which flavor of week every special snowflake within the team wants to use.

[nov21b]

You will need a good code standards and style guide regardless of framework. Together with today's linters this should be a solved problem.