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by lxgr 748 days ago
They seem to be unrelated, but sharing an etymology: https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.02177
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Classic HN – downvotes without explanation.

I might well be wrong about the etymology here, but I understand "grokking" to be a term for a phenomenon in training neural networks.

What I'm not sure about is which was there first – AI companies called some version of "grok" or that term.

The term grok came from Robert Heinlein’s 1961 novel Stranger in a Strange Land and got picked up by the CS field heavily around the late 60s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok

I do know that meaning of "grok", but I always assumed the more specific one in the context of neural networks was what informed these two naming choices, although I really don't know the exact timeline.

Didn't know about Heinlein coining it though, that's cool!

Unrelated, but you just reminded me of an old blog: Groklaw. I can't believe it's been over 10 years since it was active
From the HN commenting guidelines

> Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

I'm well aware of the "complaints about downvotes beget downvotes" meme and was expecting it here, but sometimes I am genuinely curious about the nature of the disagreement. Here I really just wanted to learn what people think the actual etymology is. I get and appreciate "I don't find this contribution helpful", but I really dislike a "I think you're factually wrong but can't be bothered to correct you" downvote.

As an aside, I wonder when "please don't make a quote from the HN commenting guidelines the only contribution of your comment" will join that list...

> As an aside, I wonder when "please don't make a quote from the HN commenting guidelines the only contribution of your comment" will join that list...

HN is largely community driven moderation, helping dang do his job, so I suspect this meta don't wouldn't make it

I didn't comment on the substance because others already had by then, not sure why they didn't prefer your OG comment...