[bheadmaster]

> Just because you don't see it, it doesn't mean it's not there. Do some research and you'll see it.

You're the one claiming there are races when starting services, so it's your responsibility to justify that claim.

You've mentioned before that "If userspace implements the bus, then only the half of userspace that comes up after the daemon can use it", but any service manager that supports service dependencies could be configured to run the bus first, and only run the rest of the userspace after the bus is up.

[blucaz]

What a genius idea, how bizarre that nobody ever thought about that before! We just need to get the bus dependencies up first and then... oh. Oh wait. Oh no.