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by bayareabadboy 757 days ago
This is very silly. The world has solved this and it’s markets. Before, mindlessly ambition people would take over countries and start wars.
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Sure glad markets solved that and we no longer have ambitious people in charge of countries starting wars.
You’re absolutely right we shouldn’t celebrate that a maniac hasn’t engulfed Europe in war since 1945. This is an incredible feat for anyone with an elementary understanding of history.

We’re at the longest period of time that a unified Germany hasn’t started a war.

Obviously there are still authoritarians seeking control and starting wars, but they tend not to exist where free markets do. Apologies if that’s inconvenient for your politics.

You… have heard of Ukraine haven’t you?
Putin, a former officer in the KGB, is a product of the planned Soviet economy.

Read red state by bill browder, the Russian economy was never a free market even after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

I always think I've found the limit of people's ability to blame communism for every problem on earth, and I'm always surprised.

Was the current genocide in Palestine the fault of Communism also? Was 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq, communism?

> Was the current genocide in Palestine the fault of Communism also?

Stalin had a crucial role in creating Israel, so, yes?

That's a strawman caricature of the argument. States that are driven by free market allocation rather than central planning (because there's no _pure_ model of either/or) are much less likely to initiate major wars of conquest, such as the ongoing Ukraine war or a hypothetical invasion of Taiwan. That's just empirical fact at this point. There are counterexamples, but the propensity goes strongly in one direction.

Also, "current genocide in Palestine" is a provocative / activist assertion, not a correct consensus use of terminology. It would at least open to debate, for example, that the situation started with a "genocide in Israel". Clarity won't be achievable for a while on that one -- but you can certainly signal that you've pre-judged the situation or can't be objective about it, with phrasing like yours.

For anybody to take your comment seriously, you'd first have to actually explain how you get to your assumptions. Because most serious people reject your assumption that there's a genocide going on in Palestine right now.
Putin is also a product of the forced liberalization of Rusia. I guess somebody would also argue that since Pinochet was also a general within Allende’s government, he’s also a product of communism.

Anyway, no war in Europe, but it’s kinda curious that the countries that go around with free market capitalism in modern history, are the ones who have invaded the most countries. By just this fact alone, I would consider the modern era of prosperity in the so called “Western countries” through cheap energy as more responsible of peace between them than free market. We will see what happens with more constrained resources. As a world inhabitant, I hope you are right.

Isn't it just as plausible that our recent period of relative calm (that is, no world wars at least) is because we invented nuclear weapons?
Yugoslavia? Cyprus? The Irish Troubles, and Mafia war in Italy…
Are you claiming Genghis Khan was mindless?
I am claiming that if genghis khan was born today, he’d most likely end up very rich in Palo Alto. Digital conquest of the steppe
It's definitely a hard one to imagine. I will be waiting for an AI generated film about this.