[reducesuffering]

Humanity would prefer no cigarette companies but sure, Philip Morris employees and shareholders would love to still have it. Remember that "OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence (AGI) benefits all of humanity." If their for-profit arm is obstructing that...

[stale2002]

Look if you think the whole company should be shutdown, then say that.

But don't pretend like any of the employees are going to go along with that. Just admit that the goal is to actively sabotage the company and shut it all down.

Then, all those employees can understand what you want, and they can go work for Microsoft instead, doing the exact same job that they were doing before, but now without the board sabotaging the company.

[reducesuffering]

First, my statement was a hypothetical that shows its fairly obvious in the abstract that just because a group's activity is beneficial to themselves doesn't mean humanity needs to tolerate it, if it's at the expense of everyone else. Hello cartels, carbon emissions, etc.

When it comes to this specific case, the board did not think the mission of "AGI benefiting humanity" warranted shutting the company down. (they believe that being in the lead is better steering than Google / FB / etc.) But they also believed that Sama was sabotaging the safety aspects that would lead to the better steering of AGI for humanity.

The board expected people to have joined OpenAI in support of the mission but Sama sabotaged that with the $1m+ pay packages that meant these people prioritized their personal wealth. The Google founders had talked about how hard it was to ignore financial incentives, a majority of employees were in uproar every time the stock flatlined for too long.

Board's priorities: some group having the best chance of AGI benefiting humanity > Company shutting down > OpenAI makes humanity worse via AGI

The employees should've understand what the OpenAI mission and board's duty was the moment they joined the company. If this wasn't one of the first topics in interviews, then Sam sabotaged the company's mission.

[stale2002]

Welcome to living in a society.

If OpenAI didn't offer high compensation, then it wouldn't have been able to attract the talent that it did.

Feel free to run your company off of Doge coin donations from EA orgs if you like.

But personally, I don't think anyone would have been able to make the frontier models that OpenAI did even if SBF himself funded the whole thing.

To actually succeed in the space you need money, top talent, and GPUs. And you can't get that if your plan is to shutdown the company.

[int_19h]

OpenAI's stated goal wasn't just to develop AGI by any means necessary, so why are you using that as a criteria?