[short_sells_poo]

Oh I'm very much with you. In fact I get irked by people here breathlessly parroting that human level AGI is upon us any day now. I'd be impressed if an AI had mouse level capabilities any time soon. I think the current models are very impressive, but they are parlor tricks compared to what a true AGI should be capable of.

[hollerith]

>if an AI had mouse level capabilities any time soon

That's why nobody has gotten any traction selling access to AIs for $20 a month whereas selling access to mouse labor is such a thriving business.

[short_sells_poo]

This is such a strawman. Do you have to really stoop to this level? There are a billion useless things people pay for, is that a measure of the intelligence behind it? People routinely pay $1000 dollars for a dog, does that mean a dog is 50x more intelligent than ChatGPT? All I'm saying is that we should be a bit more humble about intelligence when we understand so little about it.

Just because LLMs are useful, it doesn't mean they exhibit more intelligence than a mouse. A mouse probably also doesn't reason about anything, but it is an agent capable of independent behavior, something that is still very far removed from current AI models.

[hollerith]

>All I'm saying is that we should be a bit more humble about intelligence when we understand so little about it.

OK, as long as we're are being humble, how about we refrain from confidently proclaiming that there is a mouse level and a dog level that AI hasn't reached yet and that researchers will have to spend a long time getting past, so there's plenty of time before we have to worry about the possibility of AI's becoming dangerous or transformative to society?