[ghaff]

On the other hand, I'll argue pretty strongly that the determination of the Wintel ecosystem to make a one-size fits all tablet/laptop compromise is precisely one of the major reasons why such a device never really took off--including in the case of the Microsoft Surface.

[WillAdams]

I dunno.

I've bought more pen computers running Windows than I can easily count (and am still salty that Apple has yet to make a replacement for my Newton --- an iPhone w/ Apple Pencil support would be pretty close).

The big problem is that they've followed Apple/Android's lead in "dumbing down" the stylus input to an 11th touch input for many cases --- even now, in Windows 11 I have to leave the Settings app open on my Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 so that I can toggle stylus modes between working w/ legacy apps (Macromedia Freehand/MX) and current applications (OpenSCAD Graph Editor).

That aid, I've gotten to the point where I'm about to give up -- most likely my next major tech purchase will be either a Wacom Movink 13 or a Wacom One 13" (Gen2) w/ Touch and a Raspberry Pi 5.

[jwells89]

Definitely. XP/Vista tablets had more weaknesses than strengths, and while Windows 8/10/11 tablets corrected many of the missteps of their predecessors the overall experience still wasn’t as compelling as that of an iPad, despite the versatility of Windows and limitations of iPadOS.

Part of that was due to x86 tablets either being hot and noisy with awful battery life or severely underpowered, though. While there would still be software issues (like traditional Windows apps not being touch-friendly) and privacy concerns (Recall), Snapdragon X powered tablets might finally fix at least the hardware woes of Windows tablets.

[emsy]

My wife is on her third Surface because she can work on them. Meanwhile her iPad is used for YouTube and Netflix. The surface is a bad tablet but a great computer. I think the iPad has potential to be the tablet computer and it doesn’t need a dual boot into MacOS to achieve it, but the current app model with files as second class citizens, no real background processing and no child processes is just too restrictive for most professional workflows. In the end most apps need to export their result to a real computer, which means the iPad is not a real computer.