[davidguetta]

Lol "colony" there were literally 3 referendums and they said 3 times they wanted to stay feench but ok.

The kanaks are nothing more than racists against foreigners and a government that has been way over the top in respecting their indigenous customs and right to self determination

Please educate yourself before spouting russian propaganda.

[prmoustache]

It is not russian propaganda: https://www.un.org/dppa/decolonization/en/nsgt/new-caledonia

By the way your are contradicting yourself;

If as you say the issue are kanaks being racists against foreigners, that means the non kanak french people living there are indeed foreigners. You are only confirming they are colons.

I suggest you give a look at the "strip tease" TV program of 1998 (not so long ago) were you could see french colons treating their kanaks "employees" as slaves and insulting them just for being indigenous, then try repeating me again that the problem are kanaks being racists.

[davidguetta]

> If as you say the issue are kanaks being racists against foreigners, that means the non kanak french people living there are indeed foreigners. You are only confirming they are colons

So by your logic arab people in Europe are colons and should GTFO ? The reality is that migration happen and territory dont belong to a special skin color. Saying the opposite and hatin people who were born on the same territory just bc of their culture is just plain racism.

1998 was 26 years ago and people are assholes to each other at work even when they are from the same culture. Thats not an argument.

And once again the kanaks have their own institutions and are mostly autonomous. (And even better than that considering the money flowing from france). And the extremist actually burnt them several times.

Its not about colonisation. Its basic extremist / racist violence from a minority motivated but russian propaganda on tik tok like in niger and centra africa

[prmoustache]

> So by your logic arab people in Europe are colons and should GTFO ?

Which Arab people? Is there an arab government who has invaded, maintained a force presence, set up its own political institutions, decimated the population with diseases, exploited the indigenous population, and that is sending police forces from its mainland to a european country to maintain control in the last 2 centuries?

You are mixing up migration and colonization which are different things.

[davidguetta]

I think YOU are mixing up migration and colonization.

It's not colonization when you organize 3 referendums for self-determination, and indigenous cultures have their own senate. Non-indigenous people who were born there have as much right to be there than "indigenous" people, same as arabs born in Europe should not be kicked out Europe. The rest is pure racism.

[prmoustache]

Referendums organized after decimating the indigenous population, and importing french and pro-french people en masse for decades. Obviously if you make sure the indigenous people end up in the minority through colonization, your referendums will not translate to anything else.

This is like a company rejecting tons of co2 every year, planting 3 trees and greenwashing people into thinking they do everything against global warming.

This is totally about racism, but not in the direction you pretend it is.

[davidguetta]

I don't know, the number of people coming from an "European" descent never seem to have been superior to the number of kanak people: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9mographie_de_la_Nouvell...

I guess the french passport has some value for the indigenous. And again, not one referendum, three. I'm confused what more you could convince you.

"Colonisation" is an easy answer to everything but the reality is often more complicated. Not saying it's not a colony, it is, but that it doesn't mean a majority of 'colonised' see more benefit to it that inconvenients.

[prmoustache]

by the way, the full text of the Nouméa Accord signed in 1998 after a previous insurection contain in its preamble the admission by the french state that New Caledonia/Kanaky is a colonized territory: https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/JORFTEXT000000555817/

The french state admitted it, the United Nations recognized it. Only the current french government is not recognizing it because it is gradually morphing towards extreme right and facism.