[klyrs]

> Balls and shafts stick out more than labia

Do you suppose that this first-order reasoning was not available to the riders, their doctors, and saddle designers? Would you be willing to consider that balls and shafts may stick out differently than labia; and how addressing those differences may be more fruitful than reducing a 3-dimensional problem to a one-dimensional consideration of "more vs less"?

[kazinator]

Once the mindset sets in that we're gonna deliver an innovative product to the market, all sorts of first-order reasoning is cast aside.