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by mgoetzke 752 days ago
Time for a Starlink backup then
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You can look at the https://satellitemap.space/ to see that starlink isn't (yet) too feasible in the northern/arctic areas. Even in the Nordic countries the connections are not that great.
Its the groundstation that needs backing up and the location is surrounded by the sea.
Which Starlink solves utilizing the laser links between satellites.
You're grossly underestimating the bandwidth needs of the site. You're not going to replace a cluster of fiber optic cables with Starlink.
10 Gbps in Ka and 100 in E band
We're talking backup vs. primary. Of course the backup is not going to be as good.
>> We're talking backup vs. primary. Of course the backup is not going to be as good.

Then it isn't really a backup. A lower-bandwidth failover capacity is properly described as an alternative or degraded pathway. To be a proper "backup" a thing has to actually do the primary job at least temporarily.

aye. Starlink could be, best case, an Out of Band (OOB) management interface.

good for getting into the other side of a connection or doing some management tasks like back-up telemetry -- but we're talking SNMP, SSH connections to routers, etc, not GigE levels of data.

Starlink has an upload speed between 5 and 20 Mbps. The Svalbard cable is a 10Gbps link. It's still a major difference.

That said apparently they do have a satellite backup, just not through Starlink.

For a consumer grade connection. Why on earth would an enterprise contract be limited to those speeds??
That's not how satellites work.
Starlink can act as a backup for the ground station utilizing the laser links.
Maybe just use Starlink from the satellites, so we don't rely on a specific ground station.

Starlink Ground Station Network is global, spread in many different countries and look more resilient than a single one.

It's a good idea for future satellites, but upgrading existing satellites is probably not feasible.

And these polar orbit satellite typically live a lot longer than the relatively short lived starlink satellites, potentially opening you to a (perhaps unlikely?) scenario where starlink moves to new and incompatible hardware for inter-satellite communications, and your satellite is then made obsolete.

Vertical integration is not cheap, but it does have it's upsides.

That would require replacing all the satellites with new ones capable of doing that, which doesn't seem feasible. Starlink also doesn't have great coverage of the polar regions.
Starlink's laser system is already up and running. Back in January it was delivering over 42 petabytes per day:

https://uk.pcmag.com/networking/150673/starlinks-laser-syste...

“We're passing over terabits per second [of data] every day across 9,000 lasers,” SpaceX engineer Travis Brashears said today at SPIE Photonics West, an event in San Francisco focused on the latest advancements in optics and light. "We actually serve over lasers all of our users on Starlink at a given time in like a two-hour window.”

Again though, you can't do "Starlink from the satellites, so we don't rely on a specific ground station" unless all of the satellites support talking to Starlink, which they don't. That means they'd have to be replaced.
definitely not. volumes just aren't there and Elon Musk is openly in bed with dubious characters.