[bambax]

> Framework skills are perishable, but are easily just as complicated as the foundation layers of the web platform and it takes just as much – if not more – effort to keep them up to date.

That's so true. For my own projects I try to not use any framework at all (or sometimes still use Backbone, which is entirely deprecated but simple, and that I know well enough).

But of course, as an employee many times you don't have a choice. I was recently part of an Angular team (Angular 2). That was one of my most unpleasant experiences. Angular seems to revel in complexity for complexity's sake. And it's often not needed at all. In that case it was used for displaying information that lives server side and is constantly updated there (live inventory). Why would they need a big client for that?

[bdlowery]

> I try not to use any framework at all

Aka “I like living in 1999”

Lol