[saghm]

> I think Fleet aims to do this, its been in preview for 3 years now so I'm not sure what's left for them to actually release the thing

I know this isn't _technically_ something that needs to happen before a stable release, but their Vim plugin is pretty abysmal and I'm fairly sure that I'm not the only one who that would be a deal-breaker for.

[hboon]

I find their IdeaVim plugin basic, but it complements the IDE very well. Felt it’s best compare to others like Vs Code’s.

What do you not like about it?

[saghm]

As far as I can tell, the Vim mode in Fleet isn't even able to save files yet, which I feel like is literally the first thing I learned to do in Vim. I'm not really sure what it's even supposed to be able to do yet because it's missing so much that it's not worth the time for me to invest in playing around with it.

[hboon]

Sorry, I didn't read carefully, not realizing you were referring to Fleet. I have not used it before.

IdeaVim in the pre-fleet Jetbrains IDE work well (enough) for me. Tried with WebStorm, RubyMine, AppCode. I think I wouldn't use them as much if IdeaVim didn't exist.

[saghm]

Yep, I like the Vim plugin in their IDEs, and I'd be thrilled if Fleet provided that level of functionality for its plugin, but unfortunately it's not clear when that's going to happen, if ever.

[hwbunny]

Who uses vim in 2024? :D

[OJFord]

Tonnes of people, and what does the year have to do with it? Both vim and neovim are actively maintained, including new feature development.

[Faaak]

I use vim bindings in vscode. You should try it!

[saghm]

We must run in different circles; I feel like at pretty much every job I've had, at least a quarter of the people on the team use Vim key bindings in their editor (even when it's not Vim), and it's not uncommon for it to be over half of the team.

[JackMorgan]

Anyone who wants one of the best ways to manipulate text.

[slowmovintarget]

Vim Motions are really good. But you don't need to use Neovim (the best fork) to get them. Doom Emacs with evil-mode is just one of many good examples of this.