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by chx 762 days ago
Enough of this weasel talk.

It's not the early days.

Not by a country mile.

To quote Cory Doctorow

> I don’t see any path from continuous improvements to the (admittedly impressive) ”machine learning” field that leads to a general AI any more than I can see a path from continuous improvements in horse-breeding that leads to an internal combustion engine.

You can counter it doesn't necessarily need an AGI here but that doesn't change the fact you can't crank this engine harder and expect it to power an airplane.

And, as always https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112006855076082650

> You might be surprised to learn that I actually think LLMs have the potential to be not only fun but genuinely useful. “Show me some bullshit that would be typical in this context” can be a genuinely helpful question to have answered, in code and in natural language — for brainstorming, for seeing common conventions in an unfamiliar context, for having something crappy to react to.

> Alas, that does not remotely resemble how people are pitching this technology.

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> can't crank this engine harder and expect it to power an airplane.

Similarly, but from my far-less notable-self in another discussion today:

> [H]uman exuberance is riding on the (questionable) idea that a really good text-correlation specialist can effectively impersonate a general AI.

> Even worse: Some people assume an exceptional text-specialist model will effectively meta-impersonate a generalist model impersonating a different kind of specialist!

Indeed, AI is not marketed as a BS generator, just as HTTP is not marketed as a spam/ad/fraud/harassment transport protocol. All technologies are dual-use, deal with it!
There's the old adage of "trust, but verify" with LLM's I'm feeling it more like "Acknowledge, but verify, and verify again". It has certainly pointed me in the right direction faster vs google "here's some SEO stuff to sort through" :)
I agree with you. The larger point with text to SQL, however, is that it will not work if it is a simple wrap of an LLM (GPT or otherwise). Text to SQL will only work if there is a sufficient understanding of the business context required. To do this is hard, but with tools such as Dataherald a dev's life gets a whole lot easier.
what is your affiliation with Dataherald
Likely co-founder and CEO: https://www.dataherald.com/company
Yes. Correct.