[pornel]

Beginners tend to write awful code without GPT's help, so I don't think it makes things worse.

Answers don't exist in a vacuum. The chat interface allows feedback and corrections. Users can paste an error they're getting, or even say "it doesn't work", and GPT may correct itself or suggest an alternative.

[tivert]

> Beginners tend to write awful code without GPT's help, so I don't think it makes things worse.

> Answers don't exist in a vacuum. The chat interface allows feedback and corrections. Users can paste an error they're getting, or even say "it doesn't work", and GPT may correct itself or suggest an alternative.

I think you're making the mistake of viewing the job as a black box that produces output.

But what you're proposing is a terrible way to develop someone's skills and judgement. They won't develop if they're getting their hand held all the time (by an LLM or a person), and they'll stagnate. The problem with an LLM, unlike a person, it that it will hold your hand forever without complaint, while giving unreliable advice.

[pornel]

That's speculation about a hypothetical person, one that falls into learned helplessness, but there are people with different mindsets.

Getting some results with the help of infinitely-patient GPT may motivate people to learn more, as opposed to losing motivation from getting stuck, having trouble finding right answers without knowing the right terminology, and/or being told off by StackOverflow people that's a homework question.

People who want to grow, can also use GPT to ask for more explanations, and use it as a tutor. It's much better at recalling general advice.

And not everyone may want to grow into a professional developer. GPT is useful to lots of people who are not programmers, and just need to solve programming-adjacent problems, e.g. write a macro to automate a repetitive task, or customize a website.

[tivert]

> Getting some results with the help of infinitely-patient GPT may motivate people to learn more, as opposed to losing motivation from getting stuck, having trouble finding right answers without knowing the right terminology,

> ...People who want to grow, can also use GPT to ask for more explanations, and use it as a tutor. It's much better at recalling general advice.

The psychology there doesn't make sense, since the technology simultaneously takes away a big motivation to actually learn how to get the result on your own. It's like giving a kid a calculator and expecting him to use it to learn mental arithmetic. Instead, you actually just removed the motivation for most kids to do so.

I think there's a common, unstated assumption in tech circles that removing "friction" and making things "easier" is always good. It's false.

Also, a lot of what you said feels like a post-hoc rationalization for applying this particular technology as a solution to a particular problem, which is a big problem with discourse around "AI" (just like it was with blockchain). That stuff is just in the air.

> ...and/or being told off by StackOverflow people that's a homework question.

IMHO, that's the one legitimately demotivating thing on your list.

[Gigachad]

In my experience it never actually fixes the problem. It either gives you a random change back, or gives you the same solution.