[hn8305823]

> I don't understand why people have such a big privacy issue with this. It all happens on your device.

It's not hard to imagine situations where this complete and total information package can be exfiltrated or otherwise abused. Roommates, stalkers, one night stands, domestic govt, foreign govt, domestic hackers, foreign hackers, computer repair techs, employers (seizing a personal device), etc, etc etc.

There is no scenario in a free society where this should be allowed or tolerated.

[ysofunny]

> There is no scenario in a free society where this should be allowed or tolerated.

yes there is, I think you're lacking imagination. such a vision does require re-imagining a lot of what society is, and even of how we undertand ourselves relative to our many groups and super-groups which we belong to

[EasyMark]

the only place where such a thing leads is authoritarianism.

[shrimp_emoji]

Or a surge of competition from open source operating systems (to which I, for my part, have permanently migrated -- years before this new stride toward dystopia). :D

Does an open source OS have an AI watchman? You can check! If yes, you can fork and remove it.

All that's happening here is the lack of control over your hardware and software is being emphasized a little further. Put another way, you already live in totalitarianism. Microsoft or Apple have de facto totalitarian control over your computer. They always did.

[wilsonnb3]

What else should not be allowed because of it possibly being abused?

Should I not be allowed to use a password manager because it would be problematic if my roommate or one night stand copied it?

This isn't fundamentally different to any other feature.

[onemoresoop]

> Should I not be allowed to use a password manager because it would be problematic if my roommate or one night stand copied it?

You are free to use or not a password manager. What ms is doing is shoving things by force. It's not an opt in feature, their OS is becoming something ugly fast

[Spivak]

This just pushes the question, what else should be opt-in because it could be abused by someone given full access to your laptop? Saving browser history? Persistent logins? Shell history? Document recovery? Spotify listening history?

This is why Windows has the "airtight hatchway" beyond which security against the user accessing their own data stops applying. Inside your login is by construction where your private data goes. Adding more of it shouldn't matter as it's all protected as the same. Like I agree that this feature is annoying but it's not a security risk, Windows promises no security against yourself.

[allarm]

> This just pushes the question, what else should be opt-in because it could be abused by someone given full access to your laptop?

Everything? I don’t understand the question. It’s obviously everything.