[Arainach]

Good news: Musk has done none of those things. At best he's distracted and interfered with people who did those things.

[khazhoux]

We have irrefutable evidence that Elon was the top executive at companies that did all those things, while you have no evidence that those things would have happened without him.

[croes]

No need to prove it wouldn't have happened without him.

They already design new rockets, robots and chip without him being on site because he's busy with Twitter.

And I guess it's pretty easy for him to do a remote session if he needs to. He has his own Internet company.

Otherwise it's like driving a combustion car if you own a electric car company.

Doesn't mean he designed a rocket, robot or chip.

[throwaway51081]

I don't like Musk very much since he went nuts post breakup with his GF. But he does have meaningful input, technical design is not the only thing - other companies like Boeing, Blue Origin or Ariane have great engineers too, seems like technical design is not the most important part.

[croes]

And you're telling me that's impossible without being on site?

Ever heard of web meetings or even telephone?

[throwaway51081]

Yes, I have the misfortune of being on web meetings and telephone all day, every day. Even the comparatively very simple projects I work on move forward the most during our on-site meetings - and I don't mean the technological side, that's what we do after the on-site, it's exactly the parts where Musk would have most input that feel stuck online and everyone feels like we unblocked our minds and collaboration on-site.

[phasnox]

You think companies as successful as SpaceX, Tesla or Neuralink would have been possible without Musk?