[nottorp]

> we should be making up our own mind about things

But you denied my right to make up my own mind about Rust based on what its proponents say.

I believe you even attempted to insult me, too bad I don't know what curmudgeon means :)

[pdimitar]

I have not done either. "Curmudgeon" is a "get off my lawn, kids!" grandpa btw. :)

I have not denied you anything, I implored you to ignore the zealots that exist IN EVERY ECOSYSTEM and judge the thing based on what it can actually do.

Please don't misrepresent what I said, that's not arguing in good faith.

[nottorp]

Heh, this grandpa has written like 3x more python than C this year. And the C part was no choice - that was all I had on these devices.

Edit: from what I hear from my peers (translation: other programmers that I have coffee or drinks with), if I started a new server application today and I needed the performance of a compiled language, I should use Go not Rust.

I believe servers are where the propensity of C like languages to allow you to shoot yourself in the foot is the problem, isn't it?

[pdimitar]

Servers and many CLI tools, yes. Buffer overflows and memory unsafety are really easy to allow there for everyone but absolutely Godlike C/C++ devs.

Golang, Rust, Nim, Zig, and a few others are a much better fit nowadays.