[asadotzler]

>Corporations are just organizational models used by people instrumentally to pursue their goals. They have no concrete existence or any independent moral agency, and so factor out of the discussion entirely.

This is incorrect. Corporations have a concrete existence nd extreme power fully controlled by a tiny board of directors, not by "people" but by "select people" and your attempts to suggest we all use corporations when it's really just a few elite rich people using those corporations is bullshit obfuscation popular among corporatists and plutocrats.

[Gormo]

Society consists entirely of specific people with specific goals and incentives engaging in specific interactions with people. Everything is "select people", and the purpose of law and politics is to mitigate conflicts of interests and divergences in values between different "selections" of people. There is no single set of interests attributable to the public as a whole.

And there are millions of C-corps, S-corps, LLCs, partnerships, and other formal entities used by millions of Americans to organize their business affairs at all levels of scale and complexity. And millions more have their savings invested in the stock market and are responsible for electing the directors who sit on the boards of publicly-traded companies. The idea that corporate structures are only used by "a few rich elite people" is abjectly false.