[prokoudine]

> Gimp seems to have the same awkward feature set for 25 years. Apparently the only thing that has changed is they no longer compile against Gtk 1.0, and they decided to have all images in a single window.

Off the top of my head:

- Full color management

- Non-destructive filters

- 32-bit per channel precision

- Late binding CMYK support

- Unified transform tool

- Vastly better selection and cropping tools

- Vastly better text tool

Should I go on? :)

[jonathankoren]

You’ve proven my point. A bunch of data loading crap, but nothing substantial on the usability.

This is a simple tutorial task. Is it this easy in Gimp? No. It’s not. But hey, we have the same crappy ScriptFu plugins from a quarter century ago. Anyway, you have the source! Shut up and be grateful you insensitive clod!

https://youtu.be/K25F9RPrP9Q

[bee_rider]

The last 3 seem like usability upgrades. Substantial, I dunno.

[jonathankoren]

Two and a half decades for a text tool, when the rest of the functionality is stuck in 1996?

Seems fair

[prokoudine]

> You’ve proven my point.

No, not really. You did say 'feature set'.

> A bunch of data loading crap,

Sure, if you like editing with color fidelity loss.

> but nothing substantial on the usability.

Except non-destructive editing is a major UX improvement.

Except unified transform tool is a major UX improvement.

Except... Well, you get the idea. And I barely got started.

It's almost like you just hate the project and won't accept any changes they do.

I too have my fair share of frustrations with the project — enough to quit it as a team member a couple of years ago. But somehow I don't go around pretending big changes aren't big bc I'm feeling petty all of a sudden.

[jonathankoren]

You can keep assert these things, but do you really think this is acceptable progress of two and a half decades? Look around. It’s not.

I gave a concrete example of a task that is trivial in 2024, and it just does not work nearly as well or as easily. It’s the same functionality of 30 years ago.

Instead, you’re sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming, “it is progress!” Yeah, well maybe technically correct, but the gap has widened. As a project it should be shutdown. It’s zombieware.

[prokoudine]

Sounds like you are mad at the world and I got in the middle of it. Sorry, I'll see myself out.

[jonathankoren]

Sit by and let nothing happen while you’re out!