[bhyahoo]

This is Microsoft collecting lots of data to shove into AI training while selling the data collection to users as a feature for their benefit.

Same as Google adding feature to android to warn you on live calls if they detect it's a scam call. Requires them collecting, uploading and analyzing the phone call live in process.

You are the product, and so is your data.

[oriel]

This comment is the product.

Most recently I experienced it with the slack LLM announcement with a lack of real opt-out. I've long since moved to federated services and minimized my footprint on centralized for-profit services and sites as a result.

Makes me wonder if there is (or should be created) a list of companies and their data offenses akin to layoffs.fyi

[chung8123]

This is encrypted with local storage. How is this data being used to train and sell for them?

[Eggpants]

Except the user license agreement states Microsoft can upload/download anything, run anything, and ignore any user setting on “your” computer.

[throwaway5959]

Can you link me to that? I’d like to read it.

[Eggpants]

https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-US/data-collection-Windows

Noting. The middle of the page: Note – Consumer users can’t turn off essential services.

And here https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/essential-services...

Now ask yourself how can Microsoft get away with not allowing the user to turn off services? Because it’s in the EULA.

[Eggpants]

You have to navigate all the side links of this page https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/ and the separated privacy policy,

But here’s a good starting point in Paragraph 2.b It’s been modified slightly since I last captured this snippet:

[...] you grant to Microsoft a worldwide and royalty-free intellectual property license to use Your Content, for example, to make copies of, retain, transmit, reformat, display, and distribute via communication tools Your Content on the Services [...]

[shrimp_emoji]

This is a black box proprietary operating system. Called Windows. How do you know anything works according to specification, both intentionally and unintentionally?

[Zambyte]

You can at least analyze network traffic if you really want to know. If you care enough to do that though, I would think it would be much easier to just not use Windows.

[NayamAmarshe]

Someone actually did that and it sends encrypted binary-like data to their servers.

[bhyahoo]

Do they explicitly say that it's analyzed on device?

They stated that video and audio stays local, but what about text transcript from said audio and video?