[ziddoap]

You cannot summarize thousands of comments (there's nearly 4000 comments between [1] and [2] alone) in sentence or two and pretend like it is representative of the entire debate and everyone's opinion.

Even so, your quote and further commentary proves there is more nuance to be had -- some Apple users are complaining, some Apple users are defending, others are suggesting compromise! The nuance can be found when you examine how those separate groups of people came to their opposing opinions. To say there is no nuance, yet give an example of a more nuanced argument is almost funny.

While I have absolutely no interest in debating it, the example that first came to my mind regarding the "Apple thinks they own every device" comment was the nuanced debate around security, especially in relation to the target market of the devices.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39132453

[2]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24146987

[humzashahid98]

Thanks; I didn't see that debate on security and I can see it being a valid point, especially with the burden of a technically-inclined person having to fix others' (family/friends) devices.

I was trying to point to the opinion of the majority that I've seen and what I have seen from most of the community when security is mentioned is that Apple needs stronger security from a technical standpoint rather than controlling what and what is allowed on users' devices. I think both opinions hold validity, and you may be right that there is more nuance.