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by throw383y8 752 days ago
You can buy EV for a few hundreds dollars (bike), cheapest Chinese cars are around $2k, European minis start at 10k EUR.

EVs are actually very cheap as basic city car, but you have to leave out extra features like long range, bidicharging, heating...

Zero emissions means much smaller car, not some monstrosity like 3 tons SUV ls for personal transport.

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A lot of safety features are mandatory in Eu/Aus/US/NA etc, making imported Chinese cars much more expensive than first thought. Bidirectional charging does not add much cost if planned ahead, since most of the effort is in implementing ISO 15118-20 rather than hardware.

I feel like the main issue with bidirectional adoption currently is the number of groups trying to maximise their profit, everyone wants a cut of the pie: the car companies, energy companies, ev charging companies, ev charging networks, solar/inverter manufactures and government standard groups. The needle won't move until California or other countries with influence force it. In Japan, from a technology perspective CHAdeMO has allowed for EVs to do bidirectional charging for years now.

Side note - I'm all for any extra safety features but I do find that a lot of the software driven features are poorly designed and implemented. I've had bad experiences with automatic braking and lane keeping when freeways driving where I was lucky to avoid having an accidents, so not being able to disable them permanently is a major annoyance to me. It seems like these features have very little real world testing.

Charging adds TONS of cost. For start most small city cars are simply charged from wall socket. 2KW are absolutely fine to charge such small cars. You are comparing cost of power cable, with building dedicated circuits and charging station!

Second is the deprecation cost on car battery! Cycles add up quickly!