[Eisenstein]

This post is complaining about something that has nothing to do with ChatGPT. They complain because in order to get your business to get indexed and found, you need a large amount of useless content. It is the same reason that every recipe you find online has 2 pages of drivel about their family and traveling somewhere before you get to the recipe. Blame SEO and the search indexers. That is why the market exists for this nonsense; it wasn't created by LLMs.

[tedeh]

It's a fascinating thought that so much of all online content is created for the consumption of bots instead of humans. Because the bots are the gatekeepers to what gets shown to real humans, the bots need to be pleased first.

[leobg]

Ironic, right? Given that the web once was touted as the place of meritocracy where you don’t have any of those evil gatekeepers as you had in print or television. Now those gatekeepers are algorithms deployed by monopolies. Gatekeeper Hell 2.0.

[genewitch]

> same reason that every recipe you find online has 2 pages of drivel

that's not why. You can't copyright a "mere list of ingredients", but you can copyright a recipe in total, which is headnotes, general instructions, method, and any accompanying media.

Put another way, if you want to ensure that people don't (legally) clone your recipe blog, you must do the performative writing.

[Eisenstein]

That makes no sense. The recipe is still a recipe. Surrounding it by text wouldn't make it something else. Like, taking a picture of a recipe would make you the owner of the copyright of the picture, but anyone could copy that recipe to another medium and distribute it. Likewise you can re-write the recipe part into a cookbook and publish that without violating the copyright. Putting your family story around it won't change that.

[genewitch]

copyright law doesn't have to make sense. a recipe isn't a creative work, it's a list of ingredients and potentially the mechanics of putting them together. The actual recipe cannot be copyrighted. There are a lot of articles that are factchecked with a search for "recipe copyright". The rule of thumb is what i stated, in order to protect one's work on recipes or a compilation of said, one has to insert prose and other media.

Anyhow the main point is that recipe sites being the way they are has nothing to do with SEO, it's the "generally accepted practice" of protecting your work.