[tomp]

Not if they win decisively and eradicate not just the terrorists, but the terrorist indoctrination as well.

Note: there hasn't been a "generation of motivated terrorists" coming out of Japan and Germany after WWII, those populations were entirely subdued.

[rbanffy]

Having your parents, or your children, “eradicated” by someone is a powerful motivator.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Having your parents, or your children, “eradicated” by someone is a powerful motivator

But again, Japanese and Germans aren’t blowing up Americans and Indians aren’t blowing up London. Claiming this will create more terrorists is saying the Palestinians are irredeemably violent. I don’t think that’s right.

[semi-extrinsic]

Both Japan and Germany were left with their home countries and were given substantial aid to rebuild after the war. That aid was given by their former enemies.

Unfortunately I don't see it as very likely that Israel will give back all the territory in Gaza and provide aid to the Palestinians to rebuild.

[tomp]

This has been the case for the past decade - Israel has been financing Gaza and providing it with resources (e.g. electricity) as well as jobs.

Gaza was quite beautiful! And given its prime location on the mediterranean sea, I don't see why it couldn't be built up again.

https://twitter.com/InsiderWorld_1/status/178854608101537840...

But of course the massive mistake was not eradicating the evil terrorist genocidal mentality of its nominal leadership, Hamas. Israel (and the world) shouldn't make that mistake again.

[rbanffy]

Is it true that the Likud was helping to finance Hamas’ opposition to the Fatah as a way to ensure a two-state solution would remain non-viable?

[Karrot_Kream]

Israel was financing Gaza but not providing Gazan Palestinians political representation. Germans and Japanese were "given" a state where they had full rights as citizens. Political representation is an important way to defuse tensions and provide political legitimacy to a new regime. Even autocratic governments like China or Iran are beholden to the whims of their people, even if they can afford to ignore some. Israelis don't have to care about Palestinians at all. They can turn the strip into a tourist destination and no matter how much the Palestinians protest they have no representation to affect the government's course.

Gazan Palestinians don't even have limited local rule the way Chinese autonomous regions or Puerto Rico do.

Note that despite aid and the occupation, Japan had significant unrest following the war. The Communist Party of Japan's candidate Inejirou Asanuma was assassinated by an imperial revanchist on Oct 12, 1960 [1].

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Inejir%C5%8D_...

[saintkaye]

Oh my this is not true

[rbanffy]

I’m pretty sure that, unless some time traveler really screwed up, this is how it played out on this timeline.