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by threeseed 762 days ago
> Israel was viscously attacked unprovoked

Unprovoked is a stretch.

Settlers have been given free rein to commit terror acts all throughout the Palestinian Territories.

And Hamas has been propped up by the Netanyahu government for years.

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> Settlers have been given free rein to commit terror acts all throughout the Palestinian Territories.

Not quite:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_G...

This is not to say that Israel permitted Gaza to have any reasonable sort of economic development (as a simple example, it’s effectively a country with two not-very-open land borders and no port, which surely made trade rather challenging).

If you want an analogy, imagine roughly the population of San Francisco plus San Mateo County, but with under half the land area, hostile relations and extremely limited travel across the land border with Santa Clara County and points South, with no bridges and no port. Throw in a near-complete dependency on Santa Clara for water and electricity, and nowhere near enough agriculture. (At least San Mateo County has a decent amount of farming to the West.) Take out the hot tech scene as well, and the economic situation would not be awesome.

Palestinians in Gaza were not provoked and there were no settlers in the Gaza strip. Not sure about your last statement there, Hamas being propped up by Netanyahu was how Israel provoked them to attack?

What was the total number of Palestinians killed by Settler terrorist attacks in 2022? Do you have that handy? What was the number of Israelis killed by Palestinian terrorist attacks during that time?

Gaza is under military occupation by most definitions, that is provocation.

167 Palestinians and 12 Israelis in the west bank. All deaths, not just by settlers etc.

Gaza was not under military occupation by any definition. That is a fact that anyone can verify for themselves. Gaza was put under a blockade in 2007 after Hamas came to power (still has a border with Egypt, maybe Egypt is actually occupying Gaza by your definition). A blockade is not an occupation.

Maybe by "is" you mean since Oct 7th. But again that's not provocation, that's after the fact. If you think Gaza was occupied how come the IDF needs to re-occupy it?

>A blockade is not an occupation.

Killing people and children along the border is NOT a characteristic of occupation. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230513-gaza-israel-confe...

Counting calories of food consumed by Gazans is not occupation : https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE89G0NM/

Restricting water supply is most definitely not an act of occupying power : https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/11/the-occu...

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2021-0...

All these are before the Oct 7.

You're evading my question. For good reasons. It doesn't support your case.

If a Palestinian attempts to stab someone and is shot that's not the same situation as "settler" terrorist attacks.

I think you should answer my question.

Also please count Israelis in Israel killed by Palestinians from the west bank.