[hackernewds]

is it? if you consider the value 20 engineers could drive instead in that time

if you assume they wouldn't have had anything else meaningful to work on during that time to save money, then you have a different problem in the company. $6M seems like the value 1 engineer can drive in a company at the scale of Uber

[appplication]

You don’t need to consider the cost they could drive during that time. You have a direct and tangible savings for engineering time invested. That possible value they could otherwise derive is moot and hypothetical, this is the real deal!

But if we’re being honest, there isn’t actually any meaningful quantification of engineering time to understand return on investments at this level (not to say there’s none, but it sure does get wish washy). Corporate and engineering strategy isn’t so carefully weighed, and to believe otherwise is to fall victim to the pseudoscience that is software estimation. You just have to estimate directionally if a given proposal has you heading in a better direction in the long term, pursue that, and course correct along the way.

Put another way, the end state justifies the means and resourcing. It’s rarely possible to fully understand either the costs or benefits with much accuracy up front. You slowly put more resources into projects that show promise, and revoke them if the projects do not appear to be heading in a value add direction.

[cj]

>You don’t need to consider the cost they could drive during that time.

You don't need to, but you 100% should. "Opportunity cost" (cost of not doing something) is real.

This is the problem with all refactoring/migration projects. It's very easy to get a lot of people to agree a company should migrate from Node to Go or Monolith to Microservices (or to clean up a mountain of tech debt), but it's much harder to justify the time it takes away from building things your users care about.

[hibikir]

True, but often the project that was supposed to build something users care about turns to dust. On one side, you have rosy projections. On the other, a cap on gains, so sure everyone picks the first, but nobody measures if it worked.

One can build a great career working only on key, promising initiatives that never amount to any value in the end. By the time it's clear the project lost money outright, you are on to something else.