[verisimi]

Who has the truth though?

[pjc50]

It's not usually difficult to determine whether a nuclear reactor does or does not exist.

[verisimi]

The comment I responded to said:

> The only way to win here is to make it expensive to produce lies .

But which authority can be trusted to provide truth, in order to have a metric on what a lie is? Which authority is even unbiased and impartial?

[epistasis]

Courts.

[verisimi]

Is legal truth, actual truth?

[otterley]

It's close enough, and is good enough to generally satisfy our institutions and culture. The standard shouldn't be, and isn't, objective perfection.

[ben_w]

In the case of the opening story in the link, yes.

[jessriedel]

Prediction markets

[verisimi]

Good answer, but isn't that a practical answer, based on consensus? Ie its what people believe is true, but might not be actually true.

[jessriedel]

They are useful for things that become less ambiguous in the future.

[croes]

Lehman Brothers anyone?