[grecy]

You are confusing the issue here.

Imagine a world where Space X does not exist - never did.

Even still, Artemis is a terribly designed rocket that costs gobs more than Saturn V and performs much less.

Would you be happy buying something today that costs more than it did in 1970 and performs worse?

It doesn't matter what else is going on in the world, Artemis is shit.

[e_y_]

SLS is the rocket. Artemis is the project that uses SLS, Orion, and Starship to land humans on the moon.

There's also the dubious Lunar Gateway concept although that will likely get dropped as reality sets in. Maybe the same will happen to SLS. Wishful thinking.

[grecy]

I think it's interesting you didn't even address my point, you just went straight for pedantic naming conventions.

To be clear:

SLS is shit. It is waaaay more expensive, heavier and less performant than Saturn V, Starship, etc.

Orion is shit. It is heavier, more expensive and wasteful in many ways than it needs to be. It's already old by this point too.

The Lunar Gateway is shit. It's a solution looking for a problem, and everyone knows it.