[mef]

without understanding the language, you still understand that it's a book, it has symbols which represent language, and those symbols can be replicated.

we don't understand what consciousness is or how it is achieved, so discussing how to recreate it isn't really a conversation we can have - we can only discuss how to create a simulacrum.

[moi2388]

That’s not because it’s some deep philosophical problem, but because people refuse to define what they mean by consciousness.

Do they mean memory? Attention? Awareness? Self awareness? The inner voice? Qualia? All of these can be explained somewhat, but they keep moving the goalpost

[mef]

I would say it's not because people refuse to define, it's that science has not defined (and cannot define it)