[anon84873628]

>Instead it might be possible that your consciousness is a product of a simulation where your entire subjectivity - including the observation that you have a brain - is a manifestation of another mechanism that is outside of observability.

Ok, well in that simulation materialism is true and I can make an AI with emergent consciousness ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[thethimble]

It’s not clear that the material world of the simulation is of the same kind of the material world we seem to observe. Further it seems definitely not clear that we can interact/modify the simulation’s material at all.

The arrow of causality flows from simulation to consciousness and there might be no mechanism to artificially create consciousness from within consciousness.

[anon84873628]

Whatever reality is, humans have sex and make new conscious agents all the time. If they can be created by birth, why not by building?

My point was that however the subjective reality I perceive came about, the laws of it still seem to allow for the creation of new non-biological conscious agents.

[gls2ro]

We are not able (at least to my current knowledge) to go entirely from inorganic matter to a simple organic cell.

So, to make this so strange to say: while we can procreate organic agents, we cannot yet build them with our hands.

Thus I think we are a bit far away from creating consciousness. Whatever that is.