[thaumasiotes]

> You're not born aware of yourself, you spend the first few years of your life figuring out that you are embedded in this thing called a human body

This is Piaget-level garbage.

[jaybrendansmith]

Please, educate us. Why is it garbage? To me and perhaps others, this makes intuitive sense. Why shouldn't it take several years for an intelligence to build self-knowledge before it can develop what we call consciousness? Why shouldn't consciousness be emergent, as an intelligence slowly understands that it is limited to a physical form?

[thfuran]

Why shouldn't it be baked into the neural structure that has evolved over the past half billion years? Why should it require years after birth to manifest?

[thaumasiotes]

You hope that people will realize what they're doing before they argue that normal children aren't conscious, but no.