[reducesuffering]

> We will always have a deeper and more nuanced understanding of reality than our artificial counterparts.

Wishful thinking already disproven by collectives (Google and OpenAI) that are already better at understanding and acting upon reality than you or any single human intelligence. These are systems, and they can soon hollow out their biological components.

[jononor]

Do you not consider such collectives part of we (the humans)? I can understand arguing that organizations have some superinteligence. But they are still made of / run on humans - not AI/computers?

[reducesuffering]

They’re currently made up of humans, but more and more will be made of computers. In their human forms, they’re still a subversion of human values, doing things as a whole, because of incentives, that the individual humans wouldn’t do. But in the future, entire corporations will get whittled down to machine processes. An AGI decision maker at the top and each individual task replaced with robot or software agent.

[nen-nomad]

I agree with you. Those models are smarter than us in specific areas. But my question is, can they understand ideology, religion, etc, and feel them like we do? Can they come up with their traditions and beliefs? Because these are the core and evolving foundations of our reality and one of the most primitive activities since the dawn of humanity, I do not see any of these models even getting close to these concepts. They parrot what we told them. They have no agency of their own.

It is also a sign of hubris to think that we can create an artificial construct that is more intelligent than we are.